That's not entirely accurate... entropy means that a **closed system** will always degrade. The Earth is not a closed system. This is a very common misconception on the part of creation theorists.
However, the entire universe *is* a closed system. And, since the Earth is within said universe, it makes very little sense for life to be evolving-- since that would be an increase in order. Even with energy coming from the sun, matter coming from extrasolar particles, and the like. Besides, how do you explain the Big Bang, then? Everything came from nothing, light and pure energy turned to matter-- that seems to be just as ordered. Things should have been going downhill for a long time....
So God a) created humans, b) gave them a sex drive, and c) punished them for acting on it?
A) Yes, B) Yes, C) No. God did create humans, God did give them a sex drive-- but inbetween b) and c) something really icky happened. Sin entered the world. That screws up everything. So, instead of using sex as the way it was inteded to be-- a man and a woman come together to share the ultimate intimacy, two becoming one-- body, mind, and soul-- and merely turn it into recreation. So, c) should read: and people screwed it up from there, and brought the consequences of their actions down upon themselves.
Why is it that all things considered "sin" are inherent in human nature?
Because the nature of man is to be sinfull. ;) Even though that's not how it was originally intended to be. You can't hold God to our mistakes-- He didn't make it like that originally, we did. (And I can almost anticipate what you'll write in response, but I'll wait and not put words in your mouth-- just in case I'm wrong. Which has a tendency to happen. n__n;; )
And most of them are actually healthy (masturbation, sex, etc)?
Healthy how-so? Just curious on what levels-- mentally, emotionally, etc. Why is it considered healthy? Just want to get your definitions, so I know where you're coming from, and there's as little misunderstanding as possible.
I can give you my theory -- religion is ultimately a social tool. It has nothing to do with god. It has to do with controlling people, which is not altogether a bad thing. Nietzsche, while abhoring what Christianity had done to the world, recognized the necessity of religion, because some people can't control themselves. As a corollary to this, religion would arise even if there were no god because it is scientifically, evolutionarily, socially necessary. See later comments. ;)
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Date: 2003-09-30 06:37 am (UTC)However, the entire universe *is* a closed system. And, since the Earth is within said universe, it makes very little sense for life to be evolving-- since that would be an increase in order. Even with energy coming from the sun, matter coming from extrasolar particles, and the like. Besides, how do you explain the Big Bang, then? Everything came from nothing, light and pure energy turned to matter-- that seems to be just as ordered. Things should have been going downhill for a long time....
So God a) created humans, b) gave them a sex drive, and c) punished them for acting on it?
A) Yes, B) Yes, C) No. God did create humans, God did give them a sex drive-- but inbetween b) and c) something really icky happened. Sin entered the world. That screws up everything. So, instead of using sex as the way it was inteded to be-- a man and a woman come together to share the ultimate intimacy, two becoming one-- body, mind, and soul-- and merely turn it into recreation. So, c) should read: and people screwed it up from there, and brought the consequences of their actions down upon themselves.
Why is it that all things considered "sin" are inherent in human nature?
Because the nature of man is to be sinfull. ;) Even though that's not how it was originally intended to be. You can't hold God to our mistakes-- He didn't make it like that originally, we did. (And I can almost anticipate what you'll write in response, but I'll wait and not put words in your mouth-- just in case I'm wrong. Which has a tendency to happen. n__n;; )
And most of them are actually healthy (masturbation, sex, etc)?
Healthy how-so? Just curious on what levels-- mentally, emotionally, etc. Why is it considered healthy? Just want to get your definitions, so I know where you're coming from, and there's as little misunderstanding as possible.
I can give you my theory -- religion is ultimately a social tool. It has nothing to do with god. It has to do with controlling people, which is not altogether a bad thing. Nietzsche, while abhoring what Christianity had done to the world, recognized the necessity of religion, because some people can't control themselves. As a corollary to this, religion would arise even if there were no god because it is scientifically, evolutionarily, socially necessary. See later comments. ;)
See my response with your later comments! ;D