I am exceedingly careful NOT to follow. ;) But more on my beliefs following your next post...
However, would it make it easier to bear if viewed through the eyes of Evolution? A cold taskmaster, that. "Too bad, so sad, because you and your husband failed the genetic lottery, you have to watch your newborn baby die. Better luck next time, hey?"
This is anthropomorphizing a theory, something that isn't supposed to be a belief system in any way, shape, or form. If Darwin was alive today and saw what had been done with his theory (cultural darwinism) he'd have an aneurism. In reality evolution makes no prediction whatsoever for the origin of life, and is in no way counter to the notion of a creator. Evolution is also not reduced simply to survival of the fittest...
how do we know that the baby without a heart wasn't going to be the next Hitler?
Yet Hitler was born, lived, painted, ate his vegetables, and slaughtered millions. Stalin slaughtered more. The Mormons, in the name of their religion, slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Native Americans. The Christians endeavored on a bloody crusade against another religious group almost identical to their own. This is all God's Plan? And yeah, you can say "it's because humanity fell" and that's all well and good, but it still is very squarely a contradiction in terms, between the impossibly coexisting notions of an omnipotent, omniscient, and all-loving god.
entropy is always increasing. Translation: Things ain't gettin' better.
That's not entirely accurate... entropy means that a **closed system** will always degrade. The Earth is not a closed system. This is a very common misconception on the part of creation theorists. I am inclined to quote the almighty MC Hawking:
"Creationists always try to use the second law, to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw. The second law is quite precise about where it applies, only in a closed system must the entropy count rise. The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun, so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!"
God I love that man. That's a side note, though. ;)
If people abstained from sex, if they didn't do drugs, the disease wouldn't spread as quickly.
So God a) created humans, b) gave them a sex drive, and c) punished them for acting on it? Why is it that all things considered "sin" are inherent in human nature? And most of them are actually healthy (masturbation, sex, etc)? I can give you my theory -- religion is ultimately a social tool. It has nothing to do with god. It has to do with controlling people, which is not altogether a bad thing. Nietzsche, while abhoring what Christianity had done to the world, recognized the necessity of religion, because some people can't control themselves. As a corollary to this, religion would arise even if there were no god because it is scientifically, evolutionarily, socially necessary. See later comments. ;)
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Re: Gah! Too verbose... Part I
Date: 2003-09-30 03:58 am (UTC)I am exceedingly careful NOT to follow. ;)
But more on my beliefs following your next post...
However, would it make it easier to bear if viewed through the eyes of Evolution? A cold taskmaster, that. "Too bad, so sad, because you and your husband failed the genetic lottery, you have to watch your newborn baby die. Better luck next time, hey?"
This is anthropomorphizing a theory, something that isn't supposed to be a belief system in any way, shape, or form. If Darwin was alive today and saw what had been done with his theory (cultural darwinism) he'd have an aneurism. In reality evolution makes no prediction whatsoever for the origin of life, and is in no way counter to the notion of a creator. Evolution is also not reduced simply to survival of the fittest...
how do we know that the baby without a heart wasn't going to be the next Hitler?
Yet Hitler was born, lived, painted, ate his vegetables, and slaughtered millions. Stalin slaughtered more. The Mormons, in the name of their religion, slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Native Americans. The Christians endeavored on a bloody crusade against another religious group almost identical to their own. This is all God's Plan? And yeah, you can say "it's because humanity fell" and that's all well and good, but it still is very squarely a contradiction in terms, between the impossibly coexisting notions of an omnipotent, omniscient, and all-loving god.
entropy is always increasing. Translation: Things ain't gettin' better.
That's not entirely accurate... entropy means that a **closed system** will always degrade. The Earth is not a closed system. This is a very common misconception on the part of creation theorists. I am inclined to quote the almighty MC Hawking:
"Creationists always try to use the second law,
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!"
God I love that man. That's a side note, though. ;)
If people abstained from sex, if they didn't do drugs, the disease wouldn't spread as quickly.
So God a) created humans, b) gave them a sex drive, and c) punished them for acting on it? Why is it that all things considered "sin" are inherent in human nature? And most of them are actually healthy (masturbation, sex, etc)? I can give you my theory -- religion is ultimately a social tool. It has nothing to do with god. It has to do with controlling people, which is not altogether a bad thing. Nietzsche, while abhoring what Christianity had done to the world, recognized the necessity of religion, because some people can't control themselves. As a corollary to this, religion would arise even if there were no god because it is scientifically, evolutionarily, socially necessary. See later comments. ;)
Argh. at my comment limit too. TBC...